CBS airs the full Trump dust-up: 60 Minutes shows the President walking out mid-interview, a stunned Lesley Stahl saying ‘I’ve got a lot of questions’, and Kayleigh McEnany giving her a ‘healthcare’ binder with ‘no plans’ in it
- CBS on Sunday night aired their edit of the contentious Trump interview filmed in the White House Tuesday
- Trump left after 37 minutes of questioning, and on Thursday published the clip of the interview on Facebook
- CBS still aired Sunday’s show as planned, and allowed viewers to see the moment he walked off the set
- Viewers also saw Mike Pence, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris field questions about their policies and ideas
Viewers on Sunday night saw for themselves the moment Donald Trump walked out of a 60 Minutes interview, ending the interview early when he became irritated by the questions.
Trump’s refusal to sit through Lesley Stahl’s questioning on Tuesday sparked uproar on social media, and the president, furious at being called weak, released the entire clip on his Facebook page on Thursday.
‘Look at the bias, hatred and rudeness on behalf of 60 Minutes and CBS,’ he said, with a link to the 37 minute segment.
Stahl, in her introduction to Sunday’s show, explained: ‘We had prepared to talk about the many issues and questions facing the president, but in what has become an all-too-public dust-up, the conversation was cut short.’
‘It began politely, but ended regrettably, contentiously,’ she said.
On Sunday night viewers saw what happened once Trump’s camera stopped rolling, and the president walked off.
Stahl remained in her chair, looking surprised.
Donald Trump walked out of the interview after 37 minutes, with questions remaining
Donald Trump walks past Lesley Stahl after becoming irritated during the interview
Lesley Stahl, the host, was left looking over her shoulder bewildered after the president walked out of the interview
‘I’ve got a lot of questions I didn’t ask,’ Stahl says, as Trump leaves the set. She wasn’t able to finish the interview
‘I’ve got a lot of questions I didn’t ask,’ Stahl says as the president walks out past the cameras.
Kayleigh McEnany, the White House press secretary, then enters with a weighty folder which she describes as ‘his health care plan’.
Stahl comments, in a voiceover: ‘It was heavy. Filled with executive orders, congressional initiatives, but no comprehensive health plan.’
Stahl then asked McEnany: ‘And the president’s not coming back?’
McEnany replies: ‘The president’s given you a lot of time.’
Mike Pence, the vice president, was then in the hot seat.
He told Stahl that Trump was not interested in ‘back and forth with the media’.
Trump on Thursday release the ‘full, unedited’ version of his 37-minute interview with 60 Minutes
Trump spoke to Stahl for 37 minutes (above) and then cut their discussions short
‘Lesley, President Trump is a man who speaks his mind,’ Pence said.
‘I think it’s one of the great strengths that he’s had as president of the United States, is that the American people always know where they stand.
‘And he’s always ready. And the American people know that – in this time, it’s, it’s – it’s less about the back and forth with the media, and it’s – it’s really more about how we bring this country all the way back.’
Trump was due to return, to film a segment in the Rose Garden with Pence, but he did not come back.
Trump bristled immediately when Stahl started out the sit-down by asking him: ‘Are you ready for some tough questions?’
Kayleigh McEnany presents what she calls a ‘healthcare plan’ – a series of executive orders
Stahl said the folder was ‘heavy’ but contained ‘no comprehensive health plan’
He brought that up directly before he cut the interview short.
‘Excuse me. Lesley you started with your first statement was are you ready for tough questions. That’s no way to talk,’ Trump told Stahl.
He also pointed out that Democratic nominee Joe Biden gets ‘softball after softball.’
‘I’ve seen all his interviews, he’s never been asked a question that’s hard,’ Trump said.
The president also pushed that the ’60 Minutes’ interview wasn’t supposed to be hard.
‘When you set up the interview you didn’t say that,’ he told Stahl. ‘You said, “Oh, let’s have a little interview.” And here’s what I do say, you don’t ask Joe Biden. I saw your interview with Joe Biden.’
Stahl interjected, ‘I’ve never done a Joe Biden.’
Trump called it ‘a joke.’
While Stahl started off by telling the president the interview would be ‘tough,’ on several occasions she pointed out how loved the president is by his supporters and asked why he didn’t use that influence to push them to wear masks or lay off Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, who was targeted by right-wing militia members in part of a kidnapping plot.
Mike Pence, on Trump walking out, said he was uninterested in ‘back and forth with the media’
Trump said he believed ‘masks possibly worked’ and that a ‘lot of people are wearing masks’ to his rallies, which have packed in thousands since the president returned to the campaign trail after his battle with coronavirus.
Stahl said she couldn’t believe Trump wouldn’t push people to be more cautious at the rallies after the White House Rose Garden event to announce Judge Amy Coney Barrett became a ‘superspreader’ event.
‘I tell people to wear masks,’ Trump protested.
Stahl shot back, ‘No you don’t.’
The president then pointed out that his campaign handed out thousands of masks to rally-goers.
‘But you look out and they’re not wearing them and you don’t say, “Please put on your masks,”‘ Stahl pointed out.
At none of his recent rallies has the president, himself, made the request.
‘They love you, they would pay attention,’ Stahl urged.
Later Stahl said, ‘You are very powerful.’
‘If you go after somebody, they take it to heart and there are plots and threats,’ Stahl said, using Whitmer and Dr. Anthony Fauci as examples.
Trump also got annoyed at Stahl for suggesting that his rallies were bigger in 2016.
‘These are much bigger than I’ve ever had,’ Trump said. ‘You just come in here with that negative attitude,’ he scoffed.
Trump also got angry when Stahl said he was pleading with suburban women to get their vote.
‘You said the other day to suburban women, “Will you please like me please,”‘ she began.
The president called the way she phrased the question ‘misleading’ and said it was a joke.
‘See, the way you said that is why people think of you and everybody else as fake news,’ Trump told Stahl. ‘I said kiddingly, “Suburban women you should love me.”‘
When Stahl pointed out that he was behind in the polls with this group, Trump responded, ‘I doubt it, I doubt it.’
‘And one of the reasons why is they don’t feel you’re being upfront about the pandemic,’ she said.
Trump then complained, ‘You’re really quite impossible to convince.’
Stahl also wasn’t convinced when Trump called the revelations on a laptop that allegedly belongs to Hunter Biden ‘the biggest scandal out there, Lesley.’
‘I think it’s one of the biggest scandals I’ve ever seen and you don’t cover it,’ Trump said.
In the footage the president shared to his Facebook page he can be seen getting out of the chair and saying, ‘I think we have enough of an interview, let’s go, let’s go’
Stahl pushed back saying that the authenticity of the laptop’s contents, ‘can’t be verified.’
‘What can’t be verified?’ Trump asked.
The president then claimed that Joe Biden had ‘gone into hiding.’
‘He’s preparing for the debate,’ Stahl said.
Stahl also got conflicting answers from Trump within minutes about the long-promised Republican healthcare plan that would take the place of Obamacare.
‘It is developed, it is fully developed,’ Trump told her. ‘It is going to be announced very soon when we see what happens to Obamacare.’
Obamacare, more formally known as the Affordable Care Act, is facing a court challenge that will be heard by the Supreme Court just weeks after the November election.
‘I hope they end it, it will be so good if they end it, because we will come up with a plan,’ Trump continued.
Stahl pointed out that Trump had said ‘will,’ after he had just told her the plan was already done.
Joe Biden spoke to Norah O’Donnell for his 60 Minutes interview
‘We have large sections of it already done,’ Trump answered. ‘And we’ve already come up with plans. Take a look at your various secretaries, various plans that we’ve already come up with.’
Stahl pointed out Trump’s defensive posture during their sit-down.
‘It’s attack, attack, attack, attack, attack,’ she noted.
But as the interview neared its abrupt end she also expressed regret for it being so contentious.
‘I didn’t want to have this kind of interview,’ she said.
The president charged that she shouldn’t have started it by telling him she was going to ask tough questions.
‘You are president, don’t you think you should be accountable to the American people?’ she asked.
Sunday night’s show also featured interviews with Joe Biden and his running mate, Kamala Harris.
Kamala Harris also sat down to talk to O’Donnell in Sunday’s episode
Biden spoke out about the laptop which allegedly belongs to his son, saying he believed that Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani was being used as part of a ‘smear campaign’ against him.
‘From what I’ve read and know the intelligence community warned the president that Giuliani was being fed disinformation from the Russians,’ Biden said.
‘And we also know that Putin is trying very hard to spread disinformation about Joe Biden.
‘And so when you put the combination of Russia, Giuliani, the president, together – it’s just what it is.
‘It’s a smear campaign because he has nothing he wants to talk about. What is he running on? What is he running on?’
He spoke with unusual clarity about whether he would change the makeup of the Supreme Court, in the light of Amy Coney Barrett’s expected nomination and the conservative bent the court will take.
Biden, who was strongly criticized by his opponents for saying that voters would have to wait until after the election to see his plans for the Supreme Court, said in Sunday’s episode that he would convene a panel of Democrats, Republicans and legal scholars to explore all the options.
And the famously gaffe-prone former vice president also mangled his data on public schools.
‘I can send every single qualified person to a four-year college in their state for $150 billion,’ he said.
The program said that Biden’s advisers later told them he misspoke, and meant to say double that.
Harris said that she believed Trump was racist, and that his attacks on her were ‘predictable, sadly.’
Harris said that she hoped her role, if elected, will inspire future generations.
She also denied that she disagreed with Biden on healthcare policy and the Green New Deal, insisting that his platform was her platform.
‘I would not have joined the ticket if I didn’t support what Joe was proposing,’ she said.
TRUMP’S 60 MINUTES INTERVIEW: THE FULL TRANSCRIPT
Lesley Stahl: Are you ready for some tough questions?
President Donald Trump: You’re gonna be fair?
Lesley Stahl: Are you g–
President Donald Trump: Just be-
Lesley Stahl: I’m gonna be fair.
President Donald Trump: Just be fair.
Lesley Stahl: But you’re okay with some tough questions?
President Donald Trump: No, I’m not. I mean–
Lesley Stahl: (LAUGH) You’re not okay with tough questions?
President Donald Trump: I want them to be fair. You– you don’t ask Biden tough questions.
President Donald Trump: Okay. Are you ready–
Lesley Stahl: You ready? Everybody ready? So we have the pandemic. On your watch, we’ve had racial strife, we’ve had looting. Why do you want this job? Why do you wanna be president again?
President Donald Trump: Because we’ve done a great job and it’s not finished yet. And when I finish, this country will be in a position like it hasn’t been maybe ever. The economy is already roaring back. And– other people aren’t gonna bring it back, certainly the person that we’re dealing with is not gonna bring it back. They’re gonna raise taxes.
Lesley Stahl: Let me ask you what you think your– the biggest domestic priority is for you right now.
President Donald Trump: Well–
Lesley Stahl: Or next year.
President Donald Trump: Ultimately, le– let me– and I– I’ll tell ya, it was happening. We created the greatest economy in the history of our country. And the other side was–
Lesley Stahl: You know that– you know–
President Donald Trump: –coming in-
Lesley Stahl: –that’s not true.
President Donald Trump: It is totally true.
Lesley Stahl: No.
It isn’t, but President Trump did have an impressive string of economic accomplishments.
President Donald Trump: We had the best stock market price ever and we’re getting close to that price again. The unemployment numbers for African Americans, for Asian Americans, for Hispanic Americans. Virtually every number was the best. And what was happening is things were coming together—
Lesley Stahl: I asked you what’s the priority? I mean, those are all the good things–
President Donald Trump: The priority now–
Lesley Stahl: –what do you have to solve?
President Donald Trump: –is to get back to normal. Get back to where we were. To have the economy rage and be great with jobs and everybody be happy. And that’s where we’re going, and that’s–
Lesley Stahl: And–
President Donald Trump: –where we’re heading.
Lesley Stahl: And who is our biggest foreign adversary?
President Donald Trump: I would say China. They’re an adversary. They’re a–
Lesley Stahl: They’re the biggest?
President Donald Trump: –competitor. They’re a foe in many ways, but they’re an adversary. I think what happened was disgraceful, should never have happened. Should– they should never have allowed this plague to get out of China and go throughout the world. 188 countries. Should never have happened.
Lesley Stahl: Four years ago, you were behind in the polls, as you are now, and you pulled it out. But this time, you have kind of a double migraine. You have unemployment claims going up. You have COVID cases going up. I mean, it’s like the gods have suddenly decided– decided to conspire against you–
President Donald Trump: I don’t think so at all, no. I think we’ve done–
Lesley Stahl: Well, what about the–
President Donald Trump: –a great job with COVID.
Lesley Stahl: Sir, excuse me, cases are up in about 40 states.
President Donald Trump: Okay– you know why cases are up also? Because we do more testing. The fake news media loves to say cases are up. The fact is, we’ve done a very, very good job–
Lesley Stahl: Cases are up.
President Donald Trump: We have done– that’s right because we’re doing so much testing.
There is increased testing, but according to the COVID Tracking Project, that doesn’t account for all of the rise in new cases sweeping the country, or the 40% increase in hospitalizations in the past month.
Lesley Stahl: When you’re out there saying we’ve turned the corner, this thing is disappearing–
President Donald Trump: That’s right. We have turned–
Lesley Stahl: –and people can see–
President Donald Trump: –the corner. We have turned the corner.
Lesley Stahl: –people can see cases going up all over the– in the Midwest, in the Mountain West, record numbers of cases–
President Donald Trump: We have turned the corner.
Lesley Stahl: –in some states.
President Donald Trump: We understand the disease. We understand the elderly, and we are taking care of them like nobody’s ever taken care of ’em. So we are taking care of our people.
Lesley Stahl: Okay. Let me– let me ask you something about suburban women.
President Donald Trump: Yeah.
President Trump at a rally:Suburban women will you please like me? Please, please. I saved your damn neighborhood, okay?
Lesley Stahl: You said the other day to suburban women, ‘Will you please like me? Please, please–‘
President Donald Trump: Oh, I didn’t say that. You know, that’s so misleading, the way y– I say jokingly, ‘Suburban women, you should love me because I’m giving you security.’ And I got rid of the worst regulation– see, the way you said that–
Lesley Stahl: Yeah?
President Donald Trump: –is why people think of you and everyone else as fake news. I said kiddingly, ‘Suburban women, you should love me.’ I got rid of a regulation–
Lesley Stahl: You said, quote–
President Donald Trump: –that would bring low-income housing into suburbia that is destroying– that would destroy suburbia. And I said that in a joking way. The way you have it, it’s like, ‘Oh,’ like I’m begging. I w– I’m kidding. Play it, and I’m kidding. That is such a misleading question, Lesley.
Lesley Stahl: But you’re behind with suburban women in the polls.
President Donald Trump: I doubt it. I doubt it. I really doubt it.
Lesley Stahl: One of the reasons is that they don’t feel you’re being upfront about the pandemic. Are you deliberately downplaying it?
President Donald Trump: –we’re rounding the corner. We’re doing well. We’re doing well. We understand the disease. We’ve done a good job. We’ve done maybe a great job. What we haven’t done a good job on is convincing people like you because you’re really quite impossible to convince, but that’s okay. And the economy now is coming back and it’s coming back very strongly, and people see that, Lesley.
Lesley Stahl: There are more unemployment claims– I mean, the economy has kind of–
President Donald Trump: Lesley, we just picked up–
Lesley Stahl: –stalled a little bit.
President Donald Trump: –11.4 million jobs. It’s the largest number in the history of our country–
It is true that of the 22 million jobs lost since February, 11.4 million have been restored. Yet, unemployment claims are running at historically high levels. But the president sees the economy as his strongest suit.
President Donald Trump: Gallup did a poll, 56% of the people said that they’re better off now, during a pandemic, than they were during Obama and Biden. 56%. It was a record number.
Lesley Stahl: Can we go back for one second to the pandemic, because– you called Dr. Fauci and other health officials idiots.
President Donald Trump: Where did I call him an idiot?
Lesley Stahl: You called them ‘idiots.’ I wonder if you think–
President Donald Trump: Well, he’s been wrong a lot. I like him, but he’s been wrong a lot.
Lesley Stahl: –I– I wonder if you think that masks don’t work.
President Donald Trump: I feel masks possibly work. But certainly you want to stay away a certain distance, socially distance, et cetera. But I would say a mask works. And I have nothing against masks. And I tell people to wear masks. I have no problem–
Lesley Stahl: Well, tell me then about these rallies you’ve been having–
President Donald Trump: A lotta people are wearing masks, and they’re outside.
Lesley Stahl: –with people– a lot of people– aren’t. I’m– I’m watching all these people jammed in together, and I’m seeing most of them without masks. And I’m wondering the message that you’re sending with these pictures coming across television–
President Donald Trump: Take a look. Yesterday we were in Arizona, record-setting rallies. Numbers of people like nobody’s seen before.
Lesley Stahl: You used to have bigger rallies.
President Donald Trump: No, these are much bigger than I ever had–
Lesley Stahl: Okay, I don’t wanna bicker over that.
President Donald Trump: You know, you’re– you’re–
Lesley Stahl: Tell me about the mask wearing.
President Donald Trump: –so negative. You’re so negative. These are the biggest rallies we’ve ever had. You just come in here with that negative attitude. These are the biggest rallies we’ve ever had.
Lesley Stahl: But I can’t believe, after what happened in the Rose Garden here, after the announcement, with all the people getting sick–
President Donald Trump: Yeah.
Lesley Stahl: –that you are not being more strongly encouraging about wearing masks–
President Donald Trump: I am.
Lesley Stahl: –at your rallies-
President Donald Trump: I tell people to wear masks–
Lesley Stahl: But you don’t.
President Donald Trump: Lesley, we hand out thousands of masks at every rally.
Lesley Stahl: But you look out and they’re not wearing them. You don’t get up there and say, ‘Look. You know, come on. I don’t want you to–‘
President Donald Trump: What’s your– what’s your next–
Lesley Stahl: –‘get sick.’
President Donald Trump: –question, Lesley? We’re outside. The rallies are bigger than they’ve ever been. There’s more enthusiasm than we’ve ever had. There has never been anything like what you’re witnessing now, and you’ll see that soon.
Lesley Stahl: Okay, I’ll ask you another health question, okay? Told you. Okay. You promised that there was gonna be a new health package, a health care plan.
President Donald Trump: Yeah.
Lesley Stahl: You said that it was, ‘Gonna be great,’ you said ‘It’s ready,’ ‘It’s gonna be ready–‘
President Donald Trump: It will be.
Lesley Stahl: ‘It’ll be here in two weeks.’ ‘It’s gonna be like nothing you’ve ever seen before.’ And of course we haven’t seen it. So why didn’t you develop a health plan?
President Donald Trump: It is developed, it is fully developed. It’s going to be announced very soon–
Lesley Stahl: When?
President Donald Trump: When we see what happens with Obamacare.
Lesley Stahl: If the Supreme Court ends this– Obamacare–
President Donald Trump: Well, we’re gonna have to see what happens. I think– I hope that they end it. It’ll be so good if they end it–
Lesley Stahl: And if they end it people with preexisting conditions will be stranded. And that’s just a fact.
President Donald Trump: No, no. It’s wrong.
Lesley Stahl: No–
President Donald Trump: It’s wrong. A new plan will happen.
Lesley Stahl: But will–
President Donald Trump: And we won’t do anything– will and is. We won’t do anything and no plan unless we have preexisting conditions covered.
With little more than a week till the election, the president has been barnstorming the swing states where the polls are tight, including Florida, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and in Michigan.
Lesley Stahl: Can you characterize your supporters?
President Donald Trump: Yeah, I think I can. People that love our country. More than anything else and they like to see our country thrive.
Lesley Stahl: But do you think that when you hold rallies and encourage people to say, ‘Lock her up,’ the way you—
President Donald Trump: I don’t encourage them. They say it.
Lesley Stahl: And you enjoy it– You don’t say, ‘Don’t do that–‘
President Donald Trump: Hillary Clinton, let– let me just tell you– Hillary Clinton deleted, she deleted 33,000 emails after she got a subpoena from the United States Congress.
Lesley Stahl: But why is this still an issue? Why do people, they’re not gonna vote on that–
President Donald Trump: I think it’s an issue. To me it’s an issue.
Lesley Stahl: She ran last time.
President Donald Trump: Excuse me. When they say ‘Lock her up,’ it’s not me. They say it. It starts, it– it ends up being–
Lesley Stahl: You encourage it.
President Donald Trump: I don’t encourage it.
Lesley Stahl: Yes, you do.
President Donald Trump: No. If I mention her name about something, they go crazy.
Lesley Stahl: Well, what about the governor of Michigan?
Governor Gretchen Whitmer was the target of a kidnapping plot by an armed militia group.
President Donald Trump: It was our Justice Department that is the one that’s helping her. My Justice Department, if you call it that–
Lesley Stahl: Yes, yes the FBI.
President Donald Trump: It was our Justice Department that’s helping her. And, you know, people aren’t so– they’re not liking her so much, because she’s got everybody locked down.
President Donald Trump at rally: You’ve gotta get your governor to open up your state, okay…
Crowd: Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up!
President Donald Trump at rally: Lock ’em all up.
Lesley Stahl: You are– very powerful, and the people who love you, love you with passion. And if you go after somebody the way you’ve been going after her, they take it to heart–
President Donald Trump: I haven’t gone after her.
Lesley Stahl: –and they, then there are plots and threats, and the same with Dr.–
President Donald Trump: I haven’t gone after her.
Lesley Stahl: You did.
President Donald Trump: I’ve helped her. It was our Justice Department–
Lesley Stahl: You did go after– You– you criticized her–
President Donald Trump: –that’s helping her. Oh, I do criticize her, yeah.
Lesley Stahl: Well, that’s goin’ after her–
President Donald Trump: I think the way she locked down Michigan is a disgrace.
Lesley Stahl: but when you–
President Donald Trump: The way she closed churches in Michigan is a disgrace. I– yeah, I think it’s disgraceful what she’s done. I do.
Lesley Stahl: You want to lock her up?
President Donald Trump: And, by the way, that’s other-. Of course, I don’t want to lock her up. Why would I lock her up?
Lesley Stahl: ‘Cause you were in front of a rally of people saying it, encouraging it.
President Donald Trump: Lesley, it’s such a vicious thing you just said. I never said, ‘Lock up the governor of Michigan.’ I would never say that.
Lesley Stahl: Do you take any responsibility for the country being divided against itself? Do you feel that?
President Donald Trump: I’d like not to, but, you know, perhaps everybody has to take a little responsibility for it. But when people put out phony witch hunts, you know, when they spy on your campaign, you have to fight back. And if you don’t fight back, you’re not sitting here very long. You go back home.
President Donald Trump: You go back home to mommy.
As we moved from subject to subject, our conversation grew more tense. President Trump brought up what he calls the unfairness of the fake media. Most prominently: a lack of coverage of his unproven and unverified charges that former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter, have received millions of dollars in corrupt payments from a Russian oligarch and a Chinese billionaire.
President Donald Trump: I wish you would interview Joe Biden like you interview me. It would be so good. You know what?
Lesley Stahl: You like this, I thought-
President Donald Trump: The, the–
Lesley Stahl: I thought you liked spy– sparring–
President Donald Trump: I don’t mind it. I don’t mind it. But when I watch him walk out of a store, and he’s walking with an ice cream. And the question the media asks him, ‘What kind of ice cream? What flavor ice cream do you have?’ And he’s in the midst of a scandal.
Lesley Stahl: He’s not.
President Donald Trump: And he’s taking
Lesley Stahl: He’s not, no–
President Donald Trump: Of course he is, Lesley.
Lesley Stahl: Come on.
President Donald Trump: Of course he is.
President Donald Trump: It’s the biggest — second-biggest scandal. The biggest scandal was when they spied on my campaign. They spied on my campaign, Lesley-
Lesley Stahl: Well, there’s no– real evidence of that.
President Donald Trump: Of course there is. It’s all over–
Lesley Stahl: No–
President Donald Trump: –the place. Lesley, they–
Lesley Stahl: Sir–
President Donald Trump: –spied on my campaign and they got caught–
Lesley Stahl: Can I– can I say something? You know, this is 60 Minutes. And we can’t put on things we can’t verify–
President Donald Trump: No, you won’t put it on because it’s bad for Biden. Look, let me tell you–
Lesley Stahl: We can’t put on things we can’t verify–
President Donald Trump: Lesley, they spied on–
Lesley Stahl: And–
President Donald Trump: –on my campaign.
Lesley Stahl: Well, we can’t verify that–
President Donald Trump: It’s been totally verified.
Lesley Stahl: No.
President Donald Trump: It’s been– just go down and get the papers. They spied on my campaign, they got caught.
Lesley Stahl: No.
President Donald Trump: And then they went much further than that and they got caught. And you will see that, Lesley. And you know that. But you just don’t wanna put it on the air–
Lesley Stahl: No– as a matter of fact, I don’t know that.
President Donald Trump: Okay.
Lesley Stahl: And you’re out there–
President Donald Trump: So why don’t you get back to your interview, and let’s go.
Lesley Stahl: Do you think that your tweets and your name-calling are turning people off?
President Donald Trump: No, I think I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t have social media.
President Donald Trump: But the media is fake. And frankly, if I didn’t have social media, I’d have no way of getting out my voice.
Lesley Stahl: Do you know what you told me a long time ago when I asked why you keep saying ‘fake m– media’–
President Donald Trump: Yeah? Yeah?
Lesley Stahl: You said to me, ‘I say that because I need to dis– discredit you so that when you say negative things about me, no one will believe you.’
President Donald Trump: I don’t have to discredit you.
Lesley Stahl: But that’s what you told me–
President Donald Trump: You’ve discredited yourself.
Lesley Stahl: You know, I didn’t want to have this kind of angry–
President Donald Trump: Of course you did.
Lesley Stahl: No, I didn’t–
President Donald Trump: Of course you did–
Lesley Stahl: –no, I didn’t.
President Donald Trump: Well, then you brought up a lot of subjects that were inappropriately brought up–
Lesley Stahl: Well, I said, I’m gonna ask you tough questions. But–
President Donald Trump: They were inappropriately brought up. Right from the beginning. No, your first question was, ‘This is going to be tough questions.’ You don’t ask Joe Biden, I saw your interview with Joe, the interview with Joe Biden.
Lesley Stahl: I never did a Joe Biden interview-
President Donald Trump: It was a joke. The interview, 60 Minutes. I see Joe Biden, giving softball after softball. I’ve seen all of his interviews. He’s never been asked a question that’s hard.
Lesley Stahl: Okay, but forget him for a minute. You’re President–
President Donald Trump: No, but you start with me.
Lesley Stahl: You’re President, and-
President Donald Trump: Excuse me, Lesley, you started with me. Your first statement was, ‘Are you ready for tough questions?’
Lesley Stahl: Are you?
President Donald Trump: That’s no way to talk. That’s no way to talk.
Producer: Lesley, one, one second.
At this point one of our producers interrupted to advise about the time remaining in the interview.
President Donald Trump: I think we have enough of an interview here, Hope. Okay? That’s enough. Let’s go. Let’s go. Let’s go meet for two seconds, okay? Thanks. I’ll see you in a little while. Thanks.
Lesley Stahl: Be careful.
We were scheduled to take a walk with the president around the White House grounds.
Lesley Stahl: I’ve got a lot of questions I didn’t ask.
While we waited to see if the president was coming back, his press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany, came in with a hand delivery.
Kayleigh McEnany: Lesley, the president wanted me to deliver his health care plan, it’s a little heavy.
Lesley Stahl: Oh my god. This is his health care plan?
Kayleigh McEnany: Yes.
Lesley Stahl: Okay. Kayleigh, thank you.
Kayleigh McEnany: You’re welcome and the Vice President will be with you shortly.
Lesley Stahl: Okay. And the president’s not coming back?
Kayleigh McEnany: The president’s given you a lot of time.
It was heavy. Filled with executive orders, congressional initiatives, but no comprehensive health plan.
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